There is a new story circulating today that a former assistant—Paul
Re: Armstrong doping question
Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:03:17 -0900
NO_SPAM_TO_dphar...@gci.net (Dennis P. Harris)

You should say that to the Jose Canseco and ton of baseball players.. It is hard to believe Lance Armstrong is clean and innocense. This is not about money. It’s about Armstrong’s ego. He just wants another Tour De France any way possible. Winning ugly is what he wants. Lance does not give a shit about what kind of illegal drug he takes. As long as he wins, that’s all it matter. That was the attitude of Jose Canseco while he was doping with stereoid. How many baseball fans thought Jose Canseco the MLB homerun champion was the doping with hormone and stereoid? ZERO. Who knows what kind of drug Lance is taking? The guy should be ban from riding any cycle competition. He has too many accused allegations. Whether the latest allegatoin is true or not, the fact is that he has too many allegation. Why is that?—mmdir2...

 
 
 
 
 
 

Never. Those who’ve made up their minds on the issue can gleefully ignore facts, common sense and history.

Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles <habcycles.c> Home of the $695 ti frame—Mark

This is a toughie. Turd density drugs aside. Looking at the recent balco scandal... That’s a tough one. Look at recent findings in gene therapy. More tough ones. The honest truth I believe is that is is very possible for him to be on something that people just don’t know about now and test for. Yes he is the most tested athlete on the planet. What does that really mean? He is NOT failing tests for the drugs we know about. It doesn’t mean that he isn’t taking something that we DON"T know about however. And to be fair, I don’t think that he is the only one doped up in the peloton. I think that there are lots of guys doing lots of stuff, and many of them aren’t getting caught either. HGH has been around for decades, and only now is there a reliable test for it? How can you test for something you don’t know about? It’s like going to a parking lot, to find a red car, but not knowing what the color red looks like..

Let’s look at the facts.

-Lots of riders coming forward after racing to say "doping is rife in the sport". I don’t think that anyone will deny those allegations. There is a widespread doping problem in cycling. -Lance was an otherwise healthy elite athlete in his early 20’s that was diagnosed with serious cancer.

Now we believe that there is a doping problem in cycling. yes? And we can assume that the doping problem extends to the best cyclists in the world. Yes? (It would be moronic to think otherwise.. "Only the loser domestiques are doping.. all the GC favourites are totally clean..." Yeah.. right. doesn’t make any sense.) Now are we supposed to believe that the racer that fought his way back from death is better than everyone else in the world that is doping? Without doping himself.. I dunno..

Next, test are developed for drugs like EPO, etc etc. Are we to assume that everyone goes "ah drat. I’m fucked. No more doping for me.. " Yeah right. Sure there are the morons that attempt to use the "rhythm method" and time everything right, but I’m certain that when faced with the realistic options of losing ones job, etc or finding a new way to dope, they will find a new way to dope.

I don’t know why people have to just believe that he is totally clean. Yes the cancer angle is touching, and if it’s legit it is one of sports greatest stories. But people do have a tonne of blind faith regarding this issue, and I’m just not so certain. Again, I don’t think he’s the only one by any stretch of the imagination that is doing something, but he’s definitely the highest profile.—bikeguy11968

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

They say Bush has a mind, but they made that up too ;-)—Just