Juggling Pi as a siteswap.—strach
Yay!,—Peter
Re: Pi as a siteswap.
12 Apr 2005 00:49:27 -0700
"adremeaux" <adreme...@gmail.com>

Similar, and a question i havent seen answered here before:

If one takes a random sequence of digits m, what is the probability that a subsequence of length n from a random starting point is a valid siteswap?

I guess the answer to that would be as simple as finding the total amount of siteswaps of a given length and dividing it by 10^n.

So then the question is more like how many valid siteswaps are there is a given length n?

-andy—adremeaux

Re: Pi as a siteswap.
12 Apr 2005 11:04:44 GMT
kuba.straszew...@poczta.fm.nospam (strach)

i can only answer easier question:

given a random sequence of n numbers(not digits) what is the ppb, that this sequence is a valid siteswap. as every number mod n is equally propable. than we chose the numbers randomly. the first number can be chosen any way. the second can’t interfere with the first so it is (n-1)/n ppb , that it won’t be the reason that the sequence is not a siteswap. the third cant interfere with first, and second, so (n-2)/n

the ppb, that the given sequence of n random numbers is a siteswap is then n! / n^n.

but when you have digits only, than whole thing become much more compicated.

on the other side, when we consider siteswaps containing only digits there are only 2 possible siteswaps (zeros and ones)

so the longer alphabet(more digits), the bigger chance of finding siteswap?—strach

Re: Pi as a siteswap.
12 Apr 2005 12:31:42 -0700
"adremeaux" <adreme...@gmail.com>

Sorry, that is not correct. There are 30 valid siteswaps with period two (I juggling lab’d it), out of a possible 100. The formula gives 50% (2/4).

The reason it is not correct is because it doesn’t take into account the need of only whole values for balls. That is, it contains patterns which are valid for x.y balls. I’m not quite sure how to fix it, though.

-andy—adremeaux

Re: Pi as a siteswap.
13 Apr 2005 05:10:29 GMT
kuba.straszew...@poczta.fm.nospam (strach)

i don’t say it is always correct. this is the case when every number is equally possible - not every digit. This is the same as the case, when you can only pick up numbers beetween 0..n-1, where n is the length of a siteswap. and every such zumber is equally probable.

however There are 50 valid siteswaps with period two (I juggling lab’d it), out of a possible 100. (in a case i was talking about there are 4 possible siteswaps(00, 01, 10, 11)and only tow of them are correct)

xy - where x and y are both odd or both even is a siteswap. exactly 50% of two digit strings are siteswaps.

  00 02 04 06 08 - valid siteswap 01 03 05 07 09 invalid  11 13 15 17 19 - valid siteswap 10 12 14 16 18  20 22 24 26 28 - valid siteswap 21 23 25 27 29 invalid  ............—strach

Re: Pi as a siteswap.
13 Apr 2005 01:36:25 -0700
"adremeaux" <adreme...@gmail.com>