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Re: Pi as a siteswap.
11 Apr 2005 15:04:19 -0700
"adremeaux" <adreme...@gmail.com>

Yes, of course. Everything is contained in Pi. The current state of the universe encoded in binary is in pi. A jpg of your mom naked is in pi. You just have to look far enough.

-andy—adremeaux

I’ve heard that said but I don’t know of any proof. Since it appears that we don’t even know whether pi is a normal number[1]--or even which of the digits appear infinitely often in the decimal expansion--we can not know that every possible digit block occurs in it.—Rory

Thats a guess not a fact.

And as for pictures of things we do run into some philosophical questions. Lets keep out mothers out of it and instead talk about a picture of me juggling a 5 club cascade. You may find a picture (or even a video) that looks a lot like me juggling 5 clubs, but it isn’t really since no such picture exists. The same could of course be said about a picture of me juggling 3 clubs. This actually raises a lot of questions about what constitutes a picture and I think I rather juggle than spend time on them right now. :)—KlasA

You’re confusing "picture" with "photograph"

I’ve probably never met you, have no idea what you look like and yet I could quite happily draw a picture of you juggling 5 clubs. The picture would exist, and it would be of you juggling 5 clubs. [1]

I could even use a drawing package on my pc to draw a picture of you juggling 5 clubs and save it as a jpg. It would be a picture of you, juggling 5 clubs, in jpg format, and may appear somewhere in the depths of pi.

OK, so it might not be a very accurate picture of you, but it would still exist. pictures don’t have to depict reality - look at the work of M.C. Escher or Salvador Dali. I doubt very much that any of the subjects that they painted exist in reality - but the pictures still exist.

You might think you were on safer ground with "video" - but not so!

There exists video of a grown man wearing spandex swinging around a city attached to a large spider-web. To my knowlegde, this has never actually happened, and is a complete work of fiction. However, the video does exist

I know. How? I paid far too much money to watch that pile of toss in the cinema[2] that’s how.

-Paul I guess it’s perfectly possible that this post might appear somewhere in the depths of pi, but it’s equally possible that there also exists a spellchecked and proofread version.

[1] it wouldn’t be a very good picture as I can’t draw for shit! [2] I still can’t quite believe I went back to see if the sequal was any better - it wasn’t.—Little

Whenever I hear a statement like "given an infinite number if digits - it will appear an infinite number of times" I always feel like I should add ", or not at all". Is that unreasonable?—Struggler