From: "Jonathan S. Shapiro" <>
Replying To: David Wagner <>
Date: 04 Dec 2002 11:18:39 -0500
Subject: Re: [e-lang] Commentary on Wallach's "Extensible Security Architectures for Java"

On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 19:06, David Wagner wrote:
> Shap wrote:
> >Thank you for the correction. I think I got trapped by a convention of
> >the existing literature, and maybe Ping wasn't following that
> >convention. When the literature speaks of "delegating authority", it
> >generally means "transferring a token that conveys authority" as opposed
> >to the type of de facto delegation that we have been discussing. Given
> >this context, Ping's words become open to misinterpretation in the way
> >that I did.
> For what it's worth, I read Ping's words the same way Chris did.
> Maybe this was too ambiguous.  In any case, I agree that communicating
> conspirators can't be prevented from pooling their powers, and this
> interpretation seems to be enough enough to establish Ping's point.

I agree that Ping's point was sound, and I wasn't trying to undermine
his conclusion.  Going meta a bit, I *do* think that when the conventions
of usage in the literature lend themselves to misreading its useful
(where possible) to write a bit carefully.


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